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Posted: **11 Feb 2023 14:25**

Elephants are also used in some places.
And also missing some luxury carriages for the nobility and the rich.

Posted: **02 Mar 2023 10:54**

Amphibious All Terrain Vehicle (AATV) Set 0.1.2

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So, it's time to release the next iteration of the AATV set!

What's new? Compatibility with many road types!

[+] Spoiler: Following road type sets are supported now:
Country Roads
WaterWayRoad
Unspooled
Docklands
RATT Roads
Auz Road Sets
JF Ratt Roads
U&RaTT
Timberwolfs Roads
Dutch Road Project
Q65Roads
Polroad
Auge's Basic Roads
Road Hog (provides HAUL road type)

I can't foresee when I'll continue adding vehicles. Planned are 40 to 50 vehicles, so it'll take some time, I suppose

Download here:

aatvset_0.1_prerelease3.grf: (226.74 KiB) Downloaded 121 times

(source can be found here)

Posted: **02 Mar 2023 13:02**

Now this is a tasty cookie!

Posted: **02 Mar 2023 15:46**

Yes, very tasty

Posted: **02 Mar 2023 18:07**

I just noticed that the Horse Carts don't work on JFRatt roads. Because I added AATV and waterway, I didn't have country roads added to them the first time around...

Posted: **03 Mar 2023 13:04**

Horse carts have a problem even with URatt 0.7, when the city rebuilds the original old road into a city road, they don't drive on it.

Posted: **04 Mar 2023 05:31**

I'm having a problem loading SUV 0.5.1, AATV 0.1.2, Water Way Roads 0.4, U&Ratt Compatible Docklands 1.0.1 (fixes conflict w/ U&Ratt), and U&Ratt 0.8. With all of these loaded in this order, U&Ratt generates an error "Fatal: Attempt to use invalid ID (sprite 8577)". This results in all of U&Ratt's electrified tram tracks from displaying.

When I move AATV to below U&Ratt, U&Ratt generates error of invalid ID sprite 8803, all tracks but ISR tram show, and AATV generates error "Fatal: Attempt to use invalid ID (sprite 20)", resulting in no AARV vehicles.

With SUV removed and AATV before the roads, U&Ratt reports invalid ID sprite 8786, and all tracks but ISR tram and ISR electric tram are showing. Moving AATV after U&Ratt, AATV generates error invalid ID sprite 30, no vehicles, but all tracks showing.

Posted: **04 Mar 2023 10:23**

It worked together for me in the new game, but without Dockland, true. Apparently there are too many roads again...
I suspect SUVs and AATVs have some hidden road types that count as well. For example, updating an SUV or adding it to a game where there was no SUV before has an effect on the types of roads.
I know, the graphics don't fundamentally change, but just adding a set of vehicles will never do it for me. And basically I only do this if I don't have SUVs in the game yet.

Posted: **04 Mar 2023 10:54**

So now I found out something really weird.
I recently reported an issue with timberwolf cars...
But: I start the game with Uratt, Waterway and timberwolf, everything is on roads except what is supposed to be on water.
I exit the game, add the SUV, start a new one and timberwolf vehicles hop:
That means the SUV is doing something weird. When starting with only Waterway, there were really only Waterway boats in the list, you can try...

The problem has been there since at least SUV 4, I was wondering why it suddenly started happening to me when Timberwolf has made almost no changes now. I just didn't relate it to SUVs...

Posted: **04 Mar 2023 11:03**

Google threw a pitchfork at me again. So the last sentence should have been I didn't suspect an SUV,

sorry

Posted: **04 Mar 2023 11:37**

This is a purely Timberwolf vehicles, URatt and Waterway game.
Aatv will not cause this problem, only SUV's.
It's not possible for the graphics to beat each other like this in a pure game, something is wrong with the SUV.
But the problem will not be purely with SUVs, now I found out that in the subarctic climate timberwolf vehicles will "escape" into the Waterway even without an SUV....
On screen two situation without SUV in a subarctic, on screen one in a subtropic climate.
My guess is that the SUV will cause a change in the Waterway that will cause the Waterway to behave like in a subarctic climate.

Posted: **04 Mar 2023 13:25**

Even Timberwolf vehicles will still have a bug.
Waterway lets all vehicles from other sets onto the ice.
But if there is no ice, the other vehicles in the Waterway are not even in the case of a ford. With the exception of SUVs and... yes, parts of Timberwolf's cars.
So the SUV will cause a change in the behavior of the Waterway. But it does not correctly touch the last vehicles - tested with CS bus set and Polroad. However, a bug in Timberwolf vehicles will cause them to only move onto ice or water, but this may not apply to launching with Timberwolf roads.
If I use Timberwolf's roads, his vehicles only drive on them. A compatibility issue that caused this strange phenomenon.
If anyone has contact with him, please report it, because apparently he is no longer here at all. I already reported it in his topic.

Posted: **04 Mar 2023 14:45**

Thank you for reporting this

I'll fix that issue in the next release of WaterWay!

Argus wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023 13:25 Even Timberwolf vehicles will still have a bug.
Waterway lets all vehicles from other sets onto the ice.

If you load my SUV set together with my Waterway-Set, ONLY off-road vehicles (read: my SUVs) can run on ice.
However, if you DON'T LOAD my SUV set, then all ROAD vehicles can run on ice.

I created this mechanism to ensure that ALWAYS some of the vehicles, you have in a game, can run on ice.
I am sorry, if this lead to confusions...

I have mentioned this mechanism in the readme.txt and thought this was sufficient.

Posted: **04 Mar 2023 14:49**

kamnet wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023 05:31 I'm having a problem loading SUV 0.5.1, AATV 0.1.2, Water Way Roads 0.4, U&Ratt Compatible Docklands 1.0.1 (fixes conflict w/ U&Ratt), and U&Ratt 0.8. With all of these loaded in this order, U&Ratt generates an error "Fatal: Attempt to use invalid ID (sprite 8577)". This results in all of U&Ratt's electrified tram tracks from displaying.

When I move AATV to below U&Ratt, U&Ratt generates error of invalid ID sprite 8803, all tracks but ISR tram show, and AATV generates error "Fatal: Attempt to use invalid ID (sprite 20)", resulting in no AARV vehicles.

With SUV removed and AATV before the roads, U&Ratt reports invalid ID sprite 8786, and all tracks but ISR tram and ISR electric tram are showing. Moving AATV after U&Ratt, AATV generates error invalid ID sprite 30, no vehicles, but all tracks showing.

This means, too many road types.
SUV uses 4 and AATV 5 hidden roadtypes. This situation will improve in future updates. Please be patient until I've finished the updates

Posted: **04 Mar 2023 14:55**

Kruemelchen wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023 14:45 Thank you for reporting this
I'll fix that issue in the next release of WaterWay!

Argus wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023 13:25 Even Timberwolf vehicles will still have a bug.
Waterway lets all vehicles from other sets onto the ice.
If you load my SUV set together with my Waterway-Set, ONLY off-road vehicles (read: my SUVs) can run on ice.
However, if you DON'T LOAD my SUV set, then all ROAD vehicles can run on ice.

I created this mechanism to ensure that ALWAYS some of the vehicles, you have in a game, can run on ice.
I am sorry, if this lead to confusions... I have mentioned this mechanism in the readme.txt and thought this was sufficient.

I'm afraid very few players read the readme

Yes, you are describing how it should behave correctly.
Unfortunately, for some reason and Timberwolf's broken compatibility, it behaves as I described with no effect on other vehicles.
I ignore the behavior during the SUV update, because it is actually caused by the same thing, in addition, I do not report errors caused by changing the graphics. I'm the only one to blame for the mistakes caused by the changes

but at least I learned something thanks to it.

Posted: **11 Mar 2023 08:03**

Kruemelchen wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023 14:49 This situation will improve in future updates. Please be patient until I've finished the updates

Hi Kruemelchen,

Horse Carts is a great set, widening the variety of road vehicles in the pre-industrial era. However, could you please make the Horse Carts Road Vehicle Set compatible with JF Ratt Roads?

Regards,
John Franklin

Posted: **11 Mar 2023 11:18**

JohnFranklin523 wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023 08:03 However, could you please make the Horse Carts Road Vehicle Set compatible with JF Ratt Roads?

At the moment, untill there is some standardization of vehicle labels, you can also do that from within your own GRF by using Hidden Roadtypes.
This can be done by Kruemelchen from within his GRF of from within yours, it doesnt matter, its the same process, so its faster (and doesnt require an update from Kruemelchen) if you do it in your own GRF.
It does take up some of the 64 available road/tram-type slots though... Hence hoping for a quick standardization of vehicle labels...

Here an example of the code you can use:

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//======Horses======

item(FEAT_ROADTYPES, item_horse01, 62) {
	property {
		label:                       "HRSE";
		powered_roadtype_list:       ["HRSE", "QR00", "QR01", "QR25"];
}
}


//======Horse & Carriage======

item(FEAT_ROADTYPES, item_horse02, 61) {
	property {
		label:                       "HRSC";
		powered_roadtype_list:       ["HRSC", "QR00", "QR01", "QR25"];
}
}

QR00 - QR25 are then replaced by your own roadlables where you want horsies on

Dont forget to put HRSE and HRSC in your Roadtype Table

Posted: **11 Mar 2023 15:21**

Sorry, I had it sit on my computer, but forgot to upload it due to busy life

Update: Horse Carts 1.0.2 (also on Bananas)

What's new? Support for JFRoads and Q65Roads

Download:

horsecarts_1_0_2.grf: (556.77 KiB) Downloaded 123 times

(Source Code available here)

Posted: **30 Mar 2023 10:49**

It's time for an update

Water Way Road 0.4

What's new?

Towed boats!
With these, you can transport massive amounts of cargo over canals. As refit option, you have various means of tow support available, ranging from humans (available since year 0) up to electric rail (from the 1940s). With the support of these*, boats can travel with enhanced power and speed on Tow Ways!

* selectable for every vehicle separately

According to that feature, a new Road Type is available: Tow Way

Here a picture

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But not only that. This release also features other new Road Types:
Broad Fairway (water or frozen surface) - this is meant to be placed inside lakes (or sea, albeit water graphics remain as lake water)
Swamp Fairway - this is meant to be placed along GarryG's swamp lakes (only available if AUZ WATER OBJECTS is loaded!)

Download:

waterway_0_4.grf: (1.3 MiB) Downloaded 104 times

Source:

waterway_0_4_source.7z: (1.51 MiB) Downloaded 100 times

Posted: **30 Mar 2023 20:35**

So Burlac to work

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