[RFD] Research

Hyronymus · Post by **Hyronymus** » 31 Jan 2005 20:49

FRD wrote:The player can invest an amount of funds into research, which will grant him earlier access to certain vehicles.

The R&D facility will allow the player/ai to build better vehicles (like increase power, lower running cost etc).[...]

By doing research you can gain advantages compared to your rivals, such as faster planes, more efficient RV's or high-capacity ships. I have an idea how to make this work. Suggest you let your R&D research more efficient steam engines and end up with this invention: the overheater! How can we possibly transfer any benefits from research to the performance of vehicles? Perhaps we can add variables to several figures that are important for the vehicles. I.e. the annual costs, speed, power and perhaps even TE. Since the overheater made the steam use more efficient you could multiply the annual costs with a factor 0,88 i.e..

I gave this subject the RFD tag because I can imagine it's not something everybody wants. Please tell me what you guys think.

Zuu · Post by **Zuu** » 31 Jan 2005 21:11

from: http://tt2.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.p ... #Zuus_list

me@wiki wrote:Timeline:Research: Here we need to discuss if we should follow the the 'real' timeline, or if we should use a more or less research based system. - I would vote for following the timeline, or inexact capabilities to choose what to research for. Rather RCT(chose which sort of atractions to reserach on) like researching that FreeCiv(choose exact which teach to research on) like.

PJayTycy · Post by **PJayTycy** » 31 Jan 2005 21:15

Although I like the research tree of civilization etc, I think it should stay there. A transport game doesn't really needs a "research" component. I would vote for "just follow the timeline".

Zuu · Post by **Zuu** » 31 Jan 2005 21:17

PJayTycy wrote:Although I like the research tree of civilization etc, I think it should stay there. A transport game doesn't really needs a "research" component. I would vote for "just follow the timeline".

I agree on that. Becuse researching is just one thing to much.

ChrisCF · Post by **ChrisCF** » 31 Jan 2005 22:51

Some basic research is nice, but anything deeper than that and the game starts turning into *Civ* (for want of a better pattern to match against). Even if we don't implement research into technologies, we could always implement a technology system such that people can "lock out" certain features when preparing a scenario, e.g. no supersonic jets, no electric trains, etc.

Steve · Post by **Steve** » 31 Jan 2005 22:54

I think it wouldn't be too much if researching let you get things faster, rather than different thing altogether. Get £10,000 a year and you'll research that Gigondo A45 and it'll take a couple of months before Average Joe can handle such technology!

It would be a risky business, 10,000 here, which may not be too helpful overall. (Eg, if you research a toaster). Perhaps nice to see some "Research wars" between companies, both needing the best of the best to steal the CitysVille passenger market!

Hyronymus · Post by **Hyronymus** » 31 Jan 2005 23:08

My inspiration for this feature was indeed the 'research wars' that lasted between the major British railroads and the major French railroads.

Zuu · Post by **Zuu** » 13 Feb 2005 08:44

Vote:

1. No research at all
2. Much control of what to resarch (can choose: new electric engine with much hp)
3. Moderate control of what to research (can choose: locos)
4. Low control of what to research (can choose: vehicles)
5. Gain new vehicles, tracks types, buildings etc earlier.
6. Improve existing techs.

Choose:

1 or 2 or 3 or 4
5 and/or 6

Hellfire · Post by **Hellfire** » 13 Feb 2005 09:51

I vote 6

Arathorn · Post by **Arathorn** » 13 Feb 2005 10:55

I vote 1.
Let's not forget that we're stuck with real-life vehicles anyway.

Post by **uzurpator** » 13 Feb 2005 11:36

I vote 6

jfs · Post by **jfs** » 13 Feb 2005 12:20

I vote 1.

Steve · Post by **Steve** » 13 Feb 2005 12:33

Zuu · Post by **Zuu** » 13 Feb 2005 14:33

Hellfire wrote:I vote 6

You have to select 2,3 or 4 too.

I vote 1.

Grunt · Post by **Grunt** » 14 Feb 2005 02:14

I vote 4, 5, and 6. You're running a transport company here, folks, not a research institution; you're not doing research on your own, but you can certainly fund development by one of the companies that's doing vehicle development to get something out the door faster (and earlier access to prototype vehicles!).

Hyronymus · Post by **Hyronymus** » 14 Feb 2005 09:31

It's either 2, 5 and 6 or 4, 5 and 6 for me. I reckon the difficulty you create when allowing players to research their own vehicles. It would also conflict with the unspoken desire of many of us to add real life vehicles to the game. These real life vehicles would come out with unrealistic stats as a result of profound researching. Hence, 4, 5 and 6.

Steve · Post by **Steve** » 21 Feb 2005 20:06

Meeting Decisions:

- From forums:
3. Moderate control of what to research (can choose: locos)
5. Gain new vehicles, tracks types, buildings etc earlier.
6. Improve existing techs.

Status: Closed.

Topic locked, discussion continued here (08112006).

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