Sacros day length patch

Wolf01 · Post by **Wolf01** » 30 Jun 2006 20:57

i fixed most of the economy problems (running costs and interest rate) and red signal wait time

i need more time to study the code, any other suggestion is accepted

Shorty · Post by **Shorty** » 28 Jul 2006 05:39

i would suggest having all time-based costs (maintainance, running costs, loan interest, 'other' costs) multiplied by the daylength - as it stands, its just too easy to make money with longer days, since youre dividing all those costs by whatever you increase the daylength by.

Wolf01 · Post by **Wolf01** » 28 Jul 2006 16:46

if you are able to do this you can do it, i already tried but since i broke the whole economy i won't put my hands on the economy section

klogg · Post by **klogg** » 28 Jul 2006 17:22

Sorry if this is obvious...

What happens currently when I use the daylength patch?

klogg

gigajum · Post by **gigajum** » 28 Jul 2006 17:41

klogg wrote:Sorry if this is obvious...

What happens currently when I use the daylength patch?

klogg

Silly answer: try it
More then crashing the game should not happen. I would expect that the whole game prices get crazy. That should be all.

Wolf01 · Post by **Wolf01** » 28 Jul 2006 17:42

only running costs are affected by daylength
all the production is checked every day as before but you will notice an increment of production because industries produces the same quantity in the same time
this is the normal behaviour, if you can read 1 book in 24 hours and i change the daylength to 96 hours you can read 4 books in a day

suit · Post by **suit** » 10 Sep 2006 09:36

*bump*

so, whats about the daylenth patch now? i read lots of topics - but in the mini in thread i found nothing interresting

i wonder if this patch makes it into the trunk or not ?!

Wolf01 · Post by **Wolf01** » 10 Sep 2006 09:39

the patch is waiting in miniIN and i think it has no clue to be merged in trunk as it changes a lot the game behaviour

Post by **peter1138** » 11 Sep 2006 09:42

Isn't the game behaviour the same when the daylength is set to normal?

(I've not tested it, though...)

Sacro · Post by **Sacro** » 11 Sep 2006 09:54

No, with 32x daylength, you can make 32x as much money, (or the same amount, only 32x quicker!)

I have just started a MiniIN game, and gone from £0, to -£500k, to £100k in around 6 weeks!

It all depends on what behavoir people want.

peter1138: you thinking about having it in trunk?

gkirilov · Post by **gkirilov** » 11 Sep 2006 11:53

I would vote for that

I also think that there is an option to switch it off and therefore it does not change the (basic)gameplay at all.

suit · Post by **suit** » 11 Sep 2006 11:59

i played with 10x daylength yesterday and it worked pretty fine

its true that you make 10 times more money in the same amount of "ingame time" - but compared to the realtime there is no difference

the interresting part is, that new vehicles and stuff become available 10 times slower

an interresting aspect for 24/7 dedicated servers with infinite gametime

usualy the game is over after 20 hours playtime and every player can build everything - thats not very interresting

maybe the production-cruves should be lowered a bit (i'm thinking of a logarithmic curve)

so if the game is 10 times slower you make 100% more profit - if the game is 100 times slower you make 200 % more profit

so its like in browser games - you build one track and wait 10 hours, log in again and build another track or just manage you system a bit

but a higher player and/or companylimit is important too

an open game wich lasts over 3 weeks instead of 1 day needs 21 times more players/companys - or i'm wrong at this point?

Sacro · Post by **Sacro** » 11 Sep 2006 11:59

Doesn't exactly need an off switch, just set it to 1x and it does nothing (except divide/multiply various value by 1 a few times)

LSky · Post by **LSky** » 23 Oct 2006 17:42

Just for clarity, if i want to have companies be reset on my server after people havent logged in for say 12 hours being 10 ingame years, I have to put day length on 6?

Wolf01 · Post by **Wolf01** » 23 Oct 2006 20:03

~2 seconds 1 day at normal speed
10 years = 3650 days = ~2 hours

if you set for example the day length at 32x, you have the length of about 65 seconds, so a year is 365*65 ~= 6 hours, 12 hours are 2 years

Ricki · Post by **Ricki** » 01 Nov 2006 18:40

Hi all. I've just tried this patch in a recent MiniIN and the result of it is that the game works exactly the same as before. The only difference is that the date goes slower and so vehicles become available at a slower pace, but you still earn money as if there was no patch. My idea for a slow game would be that you earn the same money in the same ingame time, so I've coded a different patch that tries to achive that by reducing the output of industries and cities.

Of course, if set to 1x it makes no changes to the game.

Maedhros · Post by **Maedhros** » 02 Nov 2006 09:33

Something I noticed:

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+	 SDT_VAR(Patches, day_length, SLE_UINT8, 0, NS, 1, 1, 32, 1, STR_CONFIG_PATCHES_DAY_LENGTH, NULL),

Despite NS being available, you can't actually used it since it only syncs values when they change, not when players start a game. The setting has to be saved in the savegame so that every network player gets the same value, or you'll get huge desyncs everywhere. You need a savegame bump and to use SDT_CONDVAR instead.

Edit: In fact, NS isn't valid for guiflags at all...

Wolf01 · Post by **Wolf01** » 02 Nov 2006 10:56

see my patch for the settings about the multiplayer games
and please, try to provide patches in english, i'm italian but i never provided a patch in italian only

Wolf01 · Post by **Wolf01** » 09 Nov 2006 14:07

mmm i just thought about the daylength and i remember you said that only the time is slowed but all economy is the same
how does this work?
in normal game, i say, you earn 1M in one month
with length set to 32x you earn 1M in one month

how much time you have to wait to earn enough money to build something?
the costs are only divided visually to show the same ammount of money and internally is always tick related (so at 1x is 1M and at 32x is 32M) or is really divided per 32 so you must wait 32 times longer to build anything?

heppers · Post by **heppers** » 13 Nov 2006 10:33

Daylength + AI
I find that using the latest MiniIN having the day length set to anything other than the normal 1 causes the game to crash.
Any ideas?

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