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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 02 Feb 2008 16:06
by LordAzamath
Zephyris.. Actually, don't include it to your infrastructure set.. Because it makes the set huuuge.. And we need tunnels and crossings too for extended set.. And latetr bridges too...

EDIT: And now I release the Fruit plantation.. I'm tired of tweaking it.. I hope it's good now.
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 02 Feb 2008 16:35
by Trond
*Grabs The Plantation* Great, looks awesome in the game! Thanks :)

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 02 Feb 2008 17:02
by LordAzamath
Ok.. Actually, I made the rubber plantation the same way. This grf includes both, rubber and fruit plantations. Please note that you can't have both grfs at the same time. The grfID for the fruit planation only and for this is MA01
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 02 Feb 2008 17:09
by Trond
Was hoping you'd do that :lol: Sweet! And thanks again!

Now if only someone would do something about the forests indistry in Temperate climate... I always tought those forests where a bit boring ;) hint hint

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 02 Feb 2008 17:20
by LordAzamath
Trond wrote:Was hoping you'd do that :lol: Sweet! And thanks again!

Now if only someone would do something about the forests indistry in Temperate climate... I always tought those forests where a bit boring ;) hint hint
Gimme some time, could you :D
Actually, I'm buzy drawing tropical industries atm.. Bank to be specific. But I could use the pavement tile, if you have it Zpehyris.. So all pavements would look the same :)

madis

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 02 Feb 2008 17:29
by electricmonk
Is it just me or do those new Toyland buildings look more like they belong in Las Vegas than in 'Toyland'. The original Toyland buildings fit in a lot better.

Also, I think the new Toyland rail-tracks look too much like the rail-tracks of the other climates. Perhaps this could be remedied with larger sleepers (like the original Toyland gfx).

AE.

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 02 Feb 2008 20:07
by Zephyris
I can put together a generic concrete/pavement tile to match the roads...

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 02 Feb 2008 20:32
by LordAzamath
hmm. I thought you had it already :D Like a template where you got the road pavements and stuff ...

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 02 Feb 2008 23:15
by Zephyris
I have a standard way of generating the texture, just need to apply it to a whole tile...

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 03 Feb 2008 01:29
by athanasios
electricmonk wrote:Is it just me or do those new Toyland buildings look more like they belong in Las Vegas than in 'Toyland'...
Las Vegas is a "Toyland" City for adults. :mrgreen:

* It is true most of my buildings have little contrast. Also I tried to make the orange one more dark on SW side but I though it was too much. I wanted to make it look a bit orange, to be different from more brownish original. Feel free to adjust it, or I may even do it myself when I have time.
* buttercup: Thanks for coding. Yet a small readjustment is needed to center the buildings. Most detectable is that the white building is out of the tile.
* Yep, I also though the white building can fit in other climates too.
NOTE: I want to remove very unrealistic Toyland features and bad scaling. Many don't play toyland and I want to make it more attractive. You may have noticed how I dealt with windows in orange building. So it logical that some buildings will fit in other climates too.

Nice work with roads and plantations. :]

regards
athanasios

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 03 Feb 2008 09:58
by LordAzamath
Ok.. a little teaser.. my WIP bank atm. Critiscizm is not welcome because it isn't even half way through wip status :P

madis

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 03 Feb 2008 11:25
by DanMacK
Nice looking fruit plantation and bank :D

Here are the revised freight cars. They've had wheels and couplers added, that's about it.

Passenger cars in the works as are the rest of theTropic/arctic diesels

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 03 Feb 2008 11:28
by Trond
No problem, I can wait :)

Look forward to seeing the new bank, that'll be good!!
lordazamath wrote:
Trond wrote:Was hoping you'd do that :lol: Sweet! And thanks again!

Now if only someone would do something about the forests indistry in Temperate climate... I always tought those forests where a bit boring ;) hint hint
Gimme some time, could you :D
Actually, I'm buzy drawing tropical industries atm.. Bank to be specific. But I could use the pavement tile, if you have it Zpehyris.. So all pavements would look the same :)

madis

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 03 Feb 2008 13:43
by buttercup
athanasios wrote:* buttercup: Thanks for coding. Yet a small readjustment is needed to center the buildings. Most detectable is that the white building is out of the tile.
I don't know why I didn't notice the misalignment before - it should be fixed now.
athanasios wrote:NOTE: I want to remove very unrealistic Toyland features and bad scaling. Many don't play toyland and I want to make it more attractive. You may have noticed how I dealt with windows in orange building. So it logical that some buildings will fit in other climates too.
I actually quite like the wackiness of Toyland. If we make it too realistic then it just becomes another Temperate setting. I think all that needs to be done is to tone down the colours a little to make it easier on the eyes.

Edit: Link removed, see page 40.

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 03 Feb 2008 16:22
by LordAzamath
As you said Zephyris, it's a good idea for coop testing :) So I wrote this: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Talk:GRF#New
I just gotta update that list as we release something big again :)

madis

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 03 Feb 2008 19:00
by electricmonk
buttercup wrote:
athanasios wrote:NOTE: I want to remove very unrealistic Toyland features and bad scaling. Many don't play toyland and I want to make it more attractive. You may have noticed how I dealt with windows in orange building. So it logical that some buildings will fit in other climates too.
I actually quite like the wackiness of Toyland. If we make it too realistic then it just becomes another Temperate setting. I think all that needs to be done is to tone down the colours a little to make it easier on the eyes.
I agree. The houses are meant to be toy-houses and not real houses. Dolls houses are meant to look like Dolls houses and not real houses. Making Toyland into nothing more than just another temperate climate would take away something from it's wackyness. The only reason I don't play toyland myself is because of the shortage of available locomotives (this could easily be remedied with a GRF containing extra Toyland locomotives), although I did play a Toyland game at least once. For suggestions on making Toyland more playable, see this thread.

Also, when discussing the new locos for the Arctic climate, someone was wondering whether they should make the default locos longer than 0.5 tiles. I think this is a bad idea because if you load in an existing savegame that used the old graphics, you'd end up with trains that were longer than a station-platform. Not sure if you can add a tender to the Arctic steam-loco and still make it exactly 0.5 tiles long.

While the default Arctic loco-set has a shortage of locos, the ones it does have are very well balanced. However, it does lack any electric locos (monorail and maglev don't count).

AE.

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 03 Feb 2008 20:21
by LordAzamath
Ok.. now is feedback apreciatted again :P It's still not ready (for example no dome), but it's definatly closer.
The main concern is getting flattyness out of that picture, w/o losing detail..

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 03 Feb 2008 22:50
by athanasios
:?: For which climate is this bank? Doesn't resemble with original temperate, neither tropic. ? Are we not going to use your 32bpp tropic converted to 8bpp?

Main issue is to fix the colors to fit with the climate and era it is intended for. 8)

Now, after feedback I darkened one side of building 4659 and tweaked a few pixels.

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 04 Feb 2008 02:20
by Ben_Robbins_
athanasios: Personally I would still say to make that left hand wall darker (in Photoshop terms, by -10 brightness). In comparing the new one with the one I commented on before, I do prefer this one.

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Posted: 04 Feb 2008 22:21
by Zephyris
I am still very low on time at the moment, thought people might like to see my river and canal coasts so far. It will be very easy to add the additional climates, which will be a major improvement over current canal graphics! I know the sloped canal tiles are unnecessary, but I made them in case town "paved" rivers were ever needed. I currently have no sloped water sprites, I was in touch with lepkka about that and he said he may be able to help, but nothing yet...

No progress on coding the trains/wagons yet either I'm afraid... I have no time! Sorry guys :S Its a bit of a lame update for me really!