Zimmlocks creations develoment thread

Shindler · Post by **Shindler** » 15 Dec 2006 16:37

Will TTRSv3 work with purno new bridges in the future? Maybe a 3.1 version?

Csaboka · Post by **Csaboka** » 15 Dec 2006 17:40

You can't combine Zimmlock's roads with someone else's bridges easily. Basically, you have two choices: either use Zimmlock's roads and bridges (3.1 will have all default bridges with Zimmlock's roads), or disable the roads/bridges of TTRS altogether and use some other road/bridge set.

Post by **Dave** » 15 Dec 2006 18:17

Csaboka wrote:You can't combine Zimmlock's roads with someone else's bridges easily. Basically, you have two choices: either use Zimmlock's roads and bridges (3.1 will have all default bridges with Zimmlock's roads), or disable the roads/bridges of TTRS altogether and use some other road/bridge set.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE just make it compatible with Pikka's viaduct... Even if it's just that.

Zimmlock · Post by **Zimmlock** » 15 Dec 2006 19:39

Dave Worley wrote:PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE just make it compatible with Pikka's viaduct... Even if it's just that.

I guess it time to ask the users what bridges they would like to see emerge with the ttrs roads.
So wich bridges would you like to see with the ttrs roadsets?
(6 bridges maximal to replace the 6 original ttd bridges, wood,concrete,suspention,girdersteel,cantilever and tubilar bridge. The steel girder bridge is allready as townbridge in ttrs)
Please show a screenie with bridge (es) you request.

And for the bridge artists, can i use your bridges in ttrs?

Post by **Dave** » 15 Dec 2006 19:51

PLEASE Pikka - let Zimmlock modify it

PLEASE!

In it's usual form, the viaduct replaces the wooden bridge.

Shindler · Post by **Shindler** » 15 Dec 2006 20:22

I think that Purno New Bridges set is perfect for this... and if Purno will agree to marge them into the TTRSv3 you don't need to draw any.

Here is a screenshot with extra:
Pikka Viaduct (Number 1)
Oskar's Bridge (the last one)

I especially like:
numbers 4-6... here's the screenshot of those birdges (I've build only those that other than orginal TTD)

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 15 Dec 2006 21:54

IIRC, Hyronymus's combined roadset, which also includes my bridges, is coded in a way new roads can be supported easily, tho Lakie or Szappy will probably know more about this. AFAIK, all that has to be done is adjusting the sprites which contain a roaddeck.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 15 Dec 2006 21:59

There've long been plans floating around for a rewrite of the bridge drawing code. Any news on that?

Psistorm · Post by **Psistorm** » 15 Dec 2006 22:16

Id second that idea

- these bridges would go quite well with the TTRS3 look IMO - the brick viaduct looks especially good in the early stages, whilst the other bridges support the european look of the set

Post by **Dave** » 15 Dec 2006 22:30

Psistorm wrote:Id second that idea - these bridges would go quite well with the TTRS3 look IMO - the brick viaduct looks especially good in the early stages, whilst the other bridges support the european look of the set

The brick viaduct isn't part of the Combined Roadset is it?

Zimmlock · Post by **Zimmlock** » 16 Dec 2006 09:20

Purno wrote: AFAIK, all that has to be done is adjusting the sprites which contain a roaddeck.

Thats correct, just copy your bridges to my road-sets and ajust the deck.
thats exactly what i was (am) planing to do, i have spoted some nice bridges, ll make some variation between the "Old" and "New" roads-set,
Pikka's brick bridge fits nicely to the old roads.
However if you want the combinedroadset or other bridges atm in your game you can use the apropriate grf beside ttrs, only thing is that the roads are different.

But what krtaylor said: "There've long been plans floating around for a rewrite of the bridge drawing code. Any news on that? "
Is a point of investication, atm its impossibe to use variouse roadsets mixed without having incorrect road decks.

eis_os · Post by **eis_os** » 16 Dec 2006 09:42

Hello I still work on frameworks and apis for newobjects, then they will be reused for rails and roads... (at least thats my current plan)

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 16 Dec 2006 10:10

Dave Worley wrote:
Psistorm wrote:Id second that idea - these bridges would go quite well with the TTRS3 look IMO - the brick viaduct looks especially good in the early stages, whilst the other bridges support the european look of the set
The brick viaduct isn't part of the Combined Roadset is it?

I believe it is, via a parameter switch.

Shindler · Post by **Shindler** » 16 Dec 2006 12:20

I've noticed and interesting "glitch" or how do you call it. Download the attachment and look at the Modern Officeblock's on screenshoots.... they top floors are fadeing in and out durning the game... only in this one city... maybe it's caused by land height (max 13)??

White Rabbit · Post by **White Rabbit** » 16 Dec 2006 13:39

Yes, this happens when tall buildings are placed on a tall elevation. Notice how planes fly just above the tree tops when on height 13.

Shindler · Post by **Shindler** » 16 Dec 2006 13:47

So maybe tall building should be disabled above some specifide height? Has any body seen a "tower block 20 floors" in mountains?

Zimmlock · Post by **Zimmlock** » 17 Dec 2006 09:09

Shindler wrote:So maybe tall building should be disabled above some specifide height? Has any body seen a "tower block 20 floors" in mountains?

not yet, but as the world population keeps growing the same rate it did the last 60 years, i guess we just have to wait and highrise buildings ll emerge at the the most unimaginal places.

But i think its a good idea to see if a restriction can be build in for the talles buildings to be build at lower levels only, have to ask Csaboka.

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 20 Dec 2006 00:53

I have found some of the cathedrals and statues very annoying, but I just can't get rid of them. I understand the reason why this function was implemented but I would enjoy the game much more when able to delete them, if I needed. Would it be possile to add a parameter that woult allow demolition of the cathedral and the statues?

Csaboka · Post by **Csaboka** » 20 Dec 2006 10:46

Now that you mention it, it seems George went too far by setting the removal rating decrease to the maximum for his statues. He basically prevented human players from removing them, I'll fix this in 3.01 by decreasing their removal ratings.

Cathedrals, on the other hand, are removable, you just need a very good LA rating to do that. You can't expect a town to allow easy demolition of a building many hundred years old, especially that there are only three of them in the whole map

wallyweb · Post by **wallyweb** » 20 Dec 2006 10:55

Csaboka wrote:Cathedrals, ... , especially that there are only three of them in the whole map

I was not aware that this limit was hard coded. Are there limits placed on any of the other buildings, and if so, which and what?
This would be good to know for those of us that design towns as planned communities into their scenarios

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